Comments on: The problems with Christian Stangl’s K2 summit photo http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/the-problems-with-christian-stangl%e2%80%99s-k2-summit-photo/ Blog about the K2 mountain Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:24:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: TIROL BLOG » Schickt uns eure K2 Beweisfotos! http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/the-problems-with-christian-stangl%e2%80%99s-k2-summit-photo/#comment-147 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:34:03 +0000 http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/?p=1184#comment-147 [...] dem K2 war. Besonders umfassende Analysen zu Stangl’s gefälschtem Beweisfoto vom K2 liefert das K2 Blog. Wir wollen wissen, wie viele der TirolBlog-Leser schon via Photoshop am K2 waren. Schickt uns eure [...]

]]> By: k2bottleneck http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/the-problems-with-christian-stangl%e2%80%99s-k2-summit-photo/#comment-146 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:35:25 +0000 http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/?p=1184#comment-146 Thanks for that information. It’s breaking news to me so thanks.
Yes I’ve seen that video too and you were right to have doubts about where the Stangl picture was taken.
I am glad that he has come out and admitted it. Because his name would have been tainted had he not have done so.
My thoughts were that the death of Fredrik Ericsson and the pressure of trying to be the first one to climb all first and second highest mountains on each continent got to him in the end. K2 is well known for playing on climbers minds as they wait in base camp. Because of the bad weather and resulting inactivity they have plenty of time to think about what could go wrong.
He is good enough to come back and make the summit. He got fairly near in 2009.
I was thinking of how he could back down and just tell the truth. I think he has an explanation that tries to at least save his reputation.

]]> By: Marcel http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/the-problems-with-christian-stangl%e2%80%99s-k2-summit-photo/#comment-145 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:17:14 +0000 http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/?p=1184#comment-145 Sorry – meant the video of Libor Uher on youtube, not the one of Karl Unterkicher – I mixed them up.

]]> By: Marcel http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/the-problems-with-christian-stangl%e2%80%99s-k2-summit-photo/#comment-144 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:01:40 +0000 http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/?p=1184#comment-144 Stangl admitted today (07.09.2010) that he was not on the summit of the K2 and that the ‘summit picture’ was taken approx. 1.000 meters below the summit. I had that impression before, as the glacier running in front of Chogolisa is comletely covered by the flank of another mountain. Yet, most summit pics of K2 (and see as well the summit video of Karl Unterkircher on youtube) made towards Chogolisa show ar least one band of the glacier in an uninterrupted way.

]]> By: k2bottleneck http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/the-problems-with-christian-stangl%e2%80%99s-k2-summit-photo/#comment-111 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:39:10 +0000 http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/?p=1184#comment-111 It would be nice to see the other picture as it might reveal more features.
I have wrestled with the sun in the sunglasses quite a bit. I just haven’t formed an opinion if it is exactly right or whether what you are saying is correct. I do see what you mean though. And Ive also used Google earth too with the sun and the expected shadows.
In general there could be more analysis of the photo including what you have mentioned. There could be more analysis of the mountains in the background too. Since it appears to be a clear day in his sunglasses, the mountains around Chogolisa have far lower luminance than the ones reflected in the sunglasses.

]]> By: Steve http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/the-problems-with-christian-stangl%e2%80%99s-k2-summit-photo/#comment-110 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:14:35 +0000 http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/?p=1184#comment-110 From the Day and Night world map there, I wouldn’t have expected to be able to see the sun in his goggles at all – I had a play around using google earth and the projected direction of the sun that time and date to confirm this. This can’t be accounted for by the curvature of the lense because his arm appears in a similar position off the centre of the goggles, meaning that the sun is forward of him.

Of course Stangl could clear all this up very easily himself by producing the second photo that he took, and unedited versions of both of them!

]]> By: k2bottleneck http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/the-problems-with-christian-stangl%e2%80%99s-k2-summit-photo/#comment-109 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:00:54 +0000 http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/?p=1184#comment-109 Hi
Thanks for your comment.
A good place to check where the sun was on that day, is the day and night world map. They show the position of the sun on any particular day of the year.
You are right he is facing north. The sun would be to the right of him, which would be south east. It should not be seen in the photo, as its not , except in the sunglasses.
It is a pity though there was no picture showing the shadow of Stangl on the summit.

Source: Day and night world map

]]> By: Steve http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/the-problems-with-christian-stangl%e2%80%99s-k2-summit-photo/#comment-108 Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:47:26 +0000 http://k2bottleneck.wordpress.com/?p=1184#comment-108 My opinion is a very amateur one, but considering that Chogolisa is to the South of K2, and therefore Stangl is facing North, why is the reflection in Stangl’s goggles showing the Sun as it is…wouldn’t it be behind him over his right shoulder by 10am?

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